Discoloration in a honeycomb pattern on the front and inside of my knee.

by ccgills

Knee discoloration

Knee discoloration

After 25 years of positive results from chiropractic, I accepted a substitute for my regular doctor and he asked if I wanted to take a risk in connection with my arthritic knee adjustment. I said OK. He is no longer there and no one can tell me what happened and if anything can be done.

The knee condition appeared within a day or two of the adjustment and has been there since Oct., 2012. There isn't any additional pain and I am just curious.

I have been to my primary care MD, had an arterial ultrasound, and been to a vascular surgeon who said nothing is wrong with my circulation. All said they had never seen anything like it and "didn't have a clue." The area is about the size of a jacket elbow patch and covers the front and inside of the right knee. The color is mostly dark blue (some reddish) and is in a honeycomb pattern, like connected hexagons. It is just slightly swollen. It is under the skin. Thanks for any direction you can give me.

Frankly, Virginia, I'm at loss too. It's not unreasonable to assume it may be related to the treatment. Did he use a topical cream?

If you have no pain, and the vascular causes have been eliminated, I'd just get on with life.

Include plenty of anti inflammatory foods like freshly ground flax seed and fatty fish for their omega 3 in your diet.

Research shows the most effective treatment, by the way, for an arthritic knee, is weight loss, if you're overweight.

Sorry I can't be of more help.

Dr B

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Mar 19, 2019
heat rash
by: Anonymous

i get this same thing on my thighs. I think it's from using my hot water too much because I get pain in my legs so I put a hot water there; everyone else in the comments is saying they get it from sitting too close to a heater so I assume it's just some sort of heat rash.

The real question to address, is why am I getting so much pain in my legs? The heat rash and hot water bottle is incidental.

Until you're ready to face that squarely, there's only misery ahead. Obviously I have no clue, but you probably do, and if not, then it's time to get your doctor or chiropractor to examine you, and come up with a diagnosis.

Dr B

Mar 18, 2019
Infrared space heaters!!
by: Anonymous

I have this exact same pattern on my left leg below the knee. I had went to several doctors for it and they could never figure out what it was. They did ultrasounds to rule out blood clots and circulation problems.
After reading two posts on here about the infrared heaters I immediately remembered sitting just a few feet from one that was constantly directed toward my lower left leg. I was usually on the computer and the room I was in had no heat source, hence the infrared space heater.
With two other cases with infrared space heaters, once is an incident, twice is a coincidence, three times is a pattern. If you have a similar pattern anywhere on your body and have had a similar setup just distance yourself from the heater.

Far more sensible is a loose rug thrown over your legs and a warmer top than overheating the room and having direct heat on your body.

Dr B

Jul 14, 2018
Honeycomb patches on my inner thighs
by: Lisa

I am 31 years old and have never had issues with my legs. I am having the exact same patterns on the insides of both of my knees. There is also pain and mild swelling off and on. Feeling pain in all areas of my legs. Went to see a doctor who quickly just said I have arthritis, which may be true because my grandma has RA. But this came on fast and strong out of no where. There is also numbness and tingling in the same areas. Any searches just say knee injury.. It's not really my knees but the sides of my legs in the knee area. I'm confused and nervous as this has been 2 weeks now and its progressively getting worse. I'm a mother of 2 small boys and would like insight. Did you ever find out the problem? I can't see another doctor for 2 weeks. May be helpful to note my mother had MS, I'm a smoker and was diagnosed with Graves' disease at 16 but have had no known issues with it in 10 years.

Hello Lisa,
Thank you for being so forthright; the smoking will get you of course, as it does all smokers, but in your case I think is probably irrelevant.

On what basis did your doctor say you have arthritis? X-rays? Blood tests? Did he examine you thoroughly? Are you significantly overweight? That does cause knee arthritis.

If there's a suspicion of one of the autoimmune diseases, then a rheumatologist is the right person to make the diagnosis.

What's your diet like? Do you get plenty of fresh veg and fruit; it's in the coloured foods that the anti inflammatory phytochemicals are to be found. How much sugar and white flour is there in your food?

Obviously I can't make a diagnosis so I'm just throwing out some thoughts. Hippocrates, the much ignored father of medicine had it right more than two thousand years ago. Let you food be your medicine; if we're eating crap we will get sick.

Please let us know when a diagnosis has been made. Many thanks for your contribution.

Dr B

Feb 06, 2018
Net like patches
by: Anonymous

Dr. B, was right in my case.

I noticed the same pattern on my 22 year old step-daughters arm, just now, and as soon as I read the comment about the space heater, I went to her room and sure enough an infrared heater was pointing right at her bare arm from 3 or 4 ft away.

It's not a coincidence.

Removed it immediately!

Hopefully no damage is done.

Thank you, I'm glad we caught that before it got any worse.

Thanks for your contribution, they all help others.

May 27, 2016
Erythema ab igne (I believe this is it)
by: Anonymous

I have a honeycomb patch on the back of my leg. I believe it was caused by me sitting too close to my space heater at work. Look it up...I guess it used to be common, but not so much anymore.

It all helps; thanks for your contribution.

Dr B

Jan 07, 2015
I have the same thing, no one can tell me the cause....
by: Anonymous

I have been told levido reticularis but that doesn't explain the cause. I have it on both legs specifically on knees, arms, back, buttocks, and thighs. I hope we find answers.

Mine was not painful for first year but now is becoming painful and starting to break open and bleed.

Whenever you have a disease where there are no answers, go back to the basics of healthy living; take as much gentle exercise as you can. Eat an anti inflammatory diet, particularly with blood vessel disease, and take a proper holiday every year.

Become a health nut, and avoid the crap you find in your supermarket; eat plenty of fruit and veggies.

It might not work, but you're less likely to get arthritis or cancer, or have a heart attack anyway.

Good luck.

Dr B

Jul 02, 2014
I have been searching as well
by: Anonymous

I have the honeycomb pattern on my arm and my arm is very thin. I have just started my research, but wanted the person to know my arm is thin.

Hello again.

Take a look at this very interesting opinion from veteran cardiac surgeon on vascular inflammation. http://www.bernard-preston.com/Foods-to-reduce-inflammation.html

Very grateful to the comments of our anonymous writer.

Dr B

Jun 21, 2014
by: Ccg

I am very grateful to Anonymous for the diagnosis of Livedo Reticularis. I have been researching and agree completely. A great comfort to know what it is. Thank you again. Ccg

Jun 20, 2014
Livedo Reticularis
by: Anonymous

Looks like livedo reticularis.

Many thanks for a very helpful contribution; confess I've never heard of it!

Dr B

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