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by Michelle

Thank you for your words of knowledge. Upon doing some reading and research myself, I also feel that it could be (aka Thoracic Outlet syndrome), so I found it really interesting how this is also one possibility put forward by you.

I have been having chiro but my doctor advised me to stop until I had seen the specialist, but sounds like I may well have to start it back up again.

My collar bone also hurts on the right hand side, more so towards the centre of the bone, on the end. It also really hurts inside, like underneath the collar bone but deep inside.

When I am on the laptop it aggravates the pain too, and so does folding the washing, that thrashes. It seems that some of the really simple things in life can be the triggers.

My neck very first started 10 years ago after some loony was driving on wrong side of road and hit me head on. Been having ongoing physio, since, more recently though since symptoms got worse I have had acupuncture and been to chiro, they have probably given me a little relief but nothing major.

I find it difficult to concentrate lately and seem quite forgetful, drives me bonkers.
Over the last week I have a pain under my chin which follows down the front of my neck and past the right side of my Adams apple, going into my collar bone, it makes my neck feel restricted and tight and I really don’t like it, also feel like there is a lump/tender area in my neck, but not in my throat, doesn’t effect me swallowing.
When I think about it it’s as though the right hand side of my body is all effected, just some worse than others.

My ear, jaw, teeth and gums feel like they have infection and throb sometime of every day. Back of neck going into skull had dull ache every day and has for 10 years since accident, just some days it feels as though my head is too heavy for my neck and hurts like hell.

Then front of neck, which I already explained, and shoulder. I get really severe sensitivity and shooting pains in my elbow, which is like when you knock your funny bone and it aches like hell afterwards. My wrist hurts, aches, and feels really weak, all I want to do is nurse it, and when my wrist feels like this my hand suffers and I have lack of grip and strength.

On a more subtle note, I also get lower back, hip and groin pain and this is always worse near menstrual cycle. My knees are weak and I find it difficult getting up, I tend to have to kneel to get up rather than just stand straight off with both legs together. Sometimes I get pins and needles in my right knee cap, but as yet it’s few and far between thankfully.

My muscles also feel tender and weak in my right arm and leg, sometimes feel bruised. The weirdest thing is how much I hate being cold, it’s not only that I dislike it, it’s as though the cold makes me feel ill, sounds silly but if you could be cold intolerant that would be me.
I really feel like I am 98 instead of 38, I hate feeling like this, I have a lively bubbly sense of humour and adventure and whatever is wrong with me is stopping me from meeting the needs of my personality through being outgoing and active and I hate it.

I can’t help but wonder if bungee jumping could have anything to do with how I am as I did 6 of them when I was 18/19

My biggest nightmare is getting in a position to feel I can return to work but as yet it doesn’t seem anytime soon. If anyone feels similar and has found anything helps please let me know as I am willing to try anything, I have a young family and need to get sorted.

Dear Michelle,
I have no easy answers for you, but what's great is that your thinking, reading, talking to different people to see who can help you regain your health.

I know of no research that shows that bungee jumping can cause these sorts of symptoms, but who know what future research may show.

Three thoughts come through: Keep in mind that this could be a medical problem, hence seeing the specialist is a good idea. Just today a patient with thyroid cancer. Lumps and bumps in the neck are significant.

The second is another condition called "Tietze's syndrome" (type this into the Search this site function at C-H) which usually affects the rib-breastbone joints, but occasionally affects the collarbone-breastbone joint causing chest pain, collarbone pain, neck pain and pain radiating down the arm.

That groin pain, think hip dysplasia (increased range of motion) and Femero Acetabular Impingement Syndrome (FAIS) that causes groin and upper thigh pain.

What it's going to take is a careful, thorough examination of your neck, breastbone, hip in order to find the problem.

Sorry, but I live on the other side of the planet!

All in all keep active. Walk, use your arms, perhaps swim, James Herriot is my hero, trudge the bogs and hilltops like he did.

Good luck,

Dr B

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Interesting challenges of the day

1. Mr S is a 76 year old man with neck pain of some 9 months duration. Luckily, most of the discomfort is upper cervical which is only rarely arthritic; his lower cervical spine is a degenerative mess that I've left alone. After seven treatments his pain and stiffness is 50 percent better, and he's happy in the circumstances. He can sleep through the night now and that makes a huge difference.

2. Mr P is 32 year old man with very severe lower back pain radiating to the big toe which is 30 percent numb. He had an episode three weeks ago, took anti inflammatories and was soon better as is typical of the medial disc herniation. But before it healed, after a trivia it came roaring back, much worse. The characteristic crossed sign was evident; sitting in a chair, straightening the right leg provoked severe left back pain and tingling in the leg. He's doing well.

3. Severe lower back pain is scary; just ask Mrs P. Just watching her get out of the car I she was in trouble; she had a slipped disc at L4 making her lean towards the opposite side; luckily she had no pain in the leg. Despite family pressure that this was far too severe for a chiropractor, she persevered. Within five days she was standing upright, and after two weeks almost painfree. 

Despite a hectic job, she wisely took my advice and stayed home for what I call exercising bed rest.

4. Mr S has had lower back, groin and back of thigh and calf pain for fourth months.

He has a pincer deformity in the hip causing the stabs in the groin, and a degenerative facet causing the sciatica. Both are responding well to chiropractic and he's well pleased; sixty five percent better after three treatments.

5. Mr T is a wise man; he's taken a warning TIA seriously and has lost 15 pounds, and has at least as much again to lose. A change to a low starch diet and half hour daily walk has made the difference; but the walking is making his foot and back miserable. The expensive orthotic is hopeless; luckily his hips and back are fine, but he needs a simple heel lift.

6. I too have had serious lower back issues, luckily fixed by my own chiropractor; so I too have to do my exercises, take care when lifting supers full of honey, gardening and using the chainsaw. Regaining the function of your spine is just as important as the pain.

7. My own granddaughter, only 7 is hypermobile giving her pelvic, knee and ankle issues. Xrays show a mildly dysplastic hip. Years ago we would have called it growing pains. She too regularly needs chiropractic care and luckily responds well. Increased range of motion is more difficult than too stiff in my opinion. Our care is for kids too.

8. This 65 year old lady is a serious gardener; every day she is bending, lifting and digging for 2 to 3 hours a day. It regularly catches her in the sacroiliac joint, so she has a treatment once a month that sorts it out. She does her lower back exercises faithfully.

9. This 88 year old lady is an inspiration; every day she is busy in the community. With a nasty scoliosis she manages very well with a chiropractic adjustment every six weeks and exercises faithfully done.  

10. Mr X is a 71 year old retired man who wants to continue with maintenance care every six to eight weeks; he had suffered from two years of lower back pain when he first came a year ago. He has no discomfort now after 8 chiropractic treatments, but is aware that danger lurks.

11. Mrs C has been having severe headaches, and taking a lot of analgesics. It's a non complicated upper cervical facet syndrome, and she's doing well.

12. Mr D is a 38 old year man with chronic shoulder pain after a rotator cuff tear playing cricket. It responded well to treatment, but he knows he must do his exercises every day; for two years he couldn't sleep on that shoulder.

13. Mr D, a 71 year old man, has a severe ache in the shoulder and midback since working above his head. Trapped nerve tests are negative but he has advanced degenerative joints of Luschka; after just two treatments he is 50 percent better. Can we reach 90?

And so the day goes; chiropractors shouldn't be treating the elderly most medical sites state but that's so much bunkum.

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