Right arm tingling and numbness radiating down to the thumb
(Greenville Ohio USA)
This is for a friend who has been suffering for about 4 months now and won't seek treatment. I thought if I was armed with some good info I can convince him to change his mind.
About 4 or 5 months ago an ache and numbness developed in his right elbow extending down thru the thumb. Tingling also occurred and seemed especially painful at night.
Since then the symptoms have traveled up his arm, above the elbow to the shoulder area. Laying on his back at night only increases the pain, and lying on his left side decreases it a little due to the right arm and shoulder being able to hang and moving forward a bit. But the dull ache and numbness and tingling still prevent any deep sleep...and actually some nights no sleep at all.
At about the same time the arm pain started, a simultaneous sinus/chest congestion issue was occurring. Coughing, sinus pressure and respiratory issues were preventing sleep as well.
My friend is a carpenter by trade and uses tools of the trade. He also is an active softball player and a decent athlete. He told me he fell directly on his shoulder this summer while playing ball, but thought nothing of it.
Any thoughts or ideas or advice you could give me to possibly point my friend in the right direction for treatment would be greatly, greatly appreciated!! Thank you SO much for taking the time to read this. Sincerely, Carrie
Hello Carrie, oh for more friends like you in the world. Nevertheless, you can lead a horse to water... your friend must himself choose to drink. You'll have to be wise, rather than trying to force the issue.
You make no mention of neck pain. So the first question is whether movements of his neck and particularly looking up and turning to the right provoke any neck pain, and tingling in the arm.
Secondly would you do the "upper limb tension test" on him; it's something you can do yourselves, and report to me what you find. Use the search this site function at Chiropractic Help.
Thirdly, you could take a pin and prick his arms and hands, comparing sides. Anything happening to the thumb usually affects the index finger too. Is there a difference?
And lastly, this condition can cause muscle weakness, usually the triceps muscle. Lying on his back, with a brick in his hand which he lifts to the ceiling, straightening the elbow, does the right arm tire more quickly? He could do press ups as well. Pinch the triceps muscles between your fingers; is there any obvious wasting?
You're right to be concerned. Nerve pain that continues for any length of time will cause these "hard" neurological signs eventually.
In short, a thorough examination, probably including x-rays of his neck are needed.
Be wise! Don't use the bulldozer.
I hope this contributes. Let me know how he gets on.
1. Mr S is a 76 year old man with neck pain of some 9 months duration. Luckily, most of the discomfort is upper cervical which is only rarely arthritic; his lower cervical spine is a degenerative mess that I've left alone. After seven treatments his pain and stiffness is 50 percent better, and he's happy in the circumstances. He can sleep through the night now and that makes a huge difference.
2. Mr P is 32 year old man with very severe lower back pain radiating to the big toe which is 30 percent numb. He had an episode three weeks ago, took anti inflammatories and was soon better as is typical of the medial disc herniation. But before it healed, after a trivia it came roaring back, much worse. The characteristic crossed sign was evident; sitting in a chair, straightening the right leg provoked severe left back pain and tingling in the leg. He's doing well.
3. Severe lower back pain is scary; just ask Mrs P. Just watching her get out of the car I she was in trouble; she had a slipped disc at L4 making her lean towards the opposite side; luckily she had no pain in the leg. Despite family pressure that this was far too severe for a chiropractor, she persevered. Within five days she was standing upright, and after two weeks almost painfree.
Despite a hectic job, she wisely took my advice and stayed home for what I call exercising bed rest.
4. Mr S has had lower back, groin and back of thigh and calf pain for fourth months.
He has a pincer deformity in the hip causing the stabs in the groin, and a degenerative facet causing the sciatica. Both are responding well to chiropractic and he's well pleased; sixty five percent better after three treatments.
5. Mr T is a wise man; he's taken a warning TIA seriously and has lost 15 pounds, and has at least as much again to lose. A change to a low starch diet and half hour daily walk has made the difference; but the walking is making his foot and back miserable. The expensive orthotic is hopeless; luckily his hips and back are fine, but he needs a simple heel lift.
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11. Mrs C has been having severe headaches, and taking a lot of analgesics. It's a non complicated upper cervical facet syndrome, and she's doing well.
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13. Mr D, a 71 year old man, has a severe ache in the shoulder and midback
since working above his head. Trapped nerve tests are negative but he
has advanced degenerative joints of Luschka; after just two treatments
he is 50 percent better. Can we reach 90?
And so the day goes; chiropractors shouldn't be treating the elderly most medical sites state but that's so much bunkum.
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