meralgia paresthetica

by James Seton
(New Orleans )


Meralgia paresthetica

Hello Dr Lewis!
The reason I entered this as the subject is due to what my newest chiropractor told me which is that my lateral femoral cutaneous nerve is being pinched by my very tight psoas muscle on the right. He didn't tell me this exactly though but just happened to show me on a chart of the nervous system. I then came home and started looking around on the web.

My previous chiropractor thought I had piriformis syndrome or a very tight hamstring on that side which turned out to be wrong. Sitting seems to be my biggest problem as well as going to a standing position. I usually have to stop about 3/4 of the way up to prevent a stabbing pain in the area where the gluteus transitions to the back of my leg and then continue to erect position very slowly. Getting dressed in the morning is also a real challenge. Just changing position while sitting can cause a sudden pain in the back of the knee or gluteus although I will be pain free until doing so.

Ibuprofen seems to help but I must take it at least 2 times a day, 400 mg. I've also been applying ice to the gluteus and back of the leg which also helps for a little while. Standing and walking are not really a problem at all once I get moving in the morning and the ibuprofen starts to work. I'm hoping the new chiro I"ve got is going to help me but I'm losing hope. I will say that he worked on me more than any other chiropractor has by massaging all kinds of knots out of my upper gluteus, lower back and right hamstring. He is listed as a trained active release technique provider in the new orleans area. If I had insurance I think at this point that I would be making an appt with a doctor to get an injection or surgeon to fix this once and for all.

I continue to see that this is more of a disorder with overweight people but I am not at all nor do I wear tight clothes. At 5'8'' I weigh about 135 pounds and have always been in good shape now age 46. I've read your page on this subject and see that you seem to recommend stretches and exercises for another syndrome although I'm not sure this is what you are doing (MAIGNES SYNDROME EXERCISES). Thank you for any input you have for me,
James

Hello James,
I'm reminded of the Chinese curse: may you live in interesting times! You have interesting signs and symptoms, and I'm sure you'd rather be plain James!

Obviously I'm not there to examine you, so I won't be presumptious. But, meralgia paresthetica causes pain either on the side of the leg, or the front of the thigh. As I understand it, your pain is more in the butt and back of the thigh.

I'm inclined to think that tight hamstring on the right is very significant. It's more likely a tight sciatic nerve.

So, a few questions:
1. If you bend forward, is your right hamstring much tighter than the left?
2. Take the slump test, and let me know the result: http://www.chiropractic-books.com/Slump-Test.html

If the answer is yes in both cases, I would be focusing more on the lower lumbar joints, and a sacral fixation, and less on the higher lumbars, where both meralgia paresthetica and maignes originate.

With mer paresth pressure in the groin is usually excruciatingly tender, though you may have to prod around to find it. So, yes it may well be related to the psoas muscle. If it's meral paresth. From what you tell me, I suspect it's not.

Have you had xrays? Do they show anything significant. When I'm struggling with a back I often ask three questions:

1. Are you faithfully doing a simple basic back exercise programme before getting out of bed every morning?

2. Should I be adjusting the sacrum instead of the ilium?

3. Do you have a short leg, and should be wearing a heel lift, or inner in the sole of your shoe?

Biggie: is the Slump test positive? Then it's sciatica.

I hope this has contributed. Keep me updated. Don't feel alone, there are thousands of people exactly where you are. I know, because I'm struggling with some of them too!
By the way, if your chiro is open to it, invite him to give us his thoughts. That art on the hamstring will often help with a tight sciatica.

Try sitting a lot less. Especially the car and so called comfortable chairs.

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Sep 15, 2016
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Meralgia Parestetica?
by: CK

I am a 40 year old man.When I read about all the symptoms you mentioned in the MP page, they exactly matches to my current condition. my right outer thigh is having issues of tingling, sensitivity and burning.
Basically, I have noticed tingling on my right thigh 25 years ago during my high school. But it never bothered me. I can say it was on/off over the time. but never had burning sensation or issues.
10 months ago, when I bought my Fitbit , I used to walk a lot, during that time, I had pain and tenderness in right buttock, for which I have consulted orthopedics(thinking it is a joint problem). After X-ray and other tests, Dr mentioned it is Piriformis Syndrome and suggested some exercises. When I am back to my normal routine by reducing walk, it faded away and never bothered me again.
In last few weeks we had a long flight trip to Asia and had very less sleep some nights. Since then this burning and sesitivity statrted on my outer thigh and been causing lot of discomfort.

Piriformis and MP are both on my right side(buttock and outer thigh). Are they related? What would give me relief from MP? Do I need to see a Chiropractor or a physician or acupuncture specialist? Please suggest!

Sep 15, 2016
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Meralgia Parestetica?
by: CK

I am a 40 year old man.When I read about all the symptoms you mentioned in the MP page, they exactly matches to my current condition. my right outer thigh is having issues of tingling, sensitivity and burning.
Basically, I have noticed tingling on my right thigh 25 years ago during my high school. But it never bothered me. I can say it was on/off over the time. but never had burning sensation or issues.
10 months ago, when I bought my Fitbit , I used to walk a lot, during that time, I had pain and tenderness in right buttock, for which I have consulted orthopedics(thinking it is a joint problem). After X-ray and other tests, Dr mentioned it is Piriformis Syndrome and suggested some exercises. When I am back to my normal routine by reducing walk, it faded away and never bothered me again.
In last few weeks we had a long flight trip to Asia and had very less sleep some nights. Since then this burning and sesitivity statrted on my outer thigh and been causing lot of discomfort.

Piriformis and MP are both on my right side(buttock and outer thigh). Are they related? What would give me relief from MP? Do I need to see a Chiropractor or a physician or acupuncture specialist? Please suggest!

Oct 10, 2014
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Pain in outer thigh
by: Anonymous

Hi I am 25 year old women. Since an year, I am having burning and tingling sensation in my outer thigh. When I researched online, it showed me as Meralgia Paresethetica. I get this pain only when I sit for long hours - like in work, long driving. I started doing exercise but still I am having pains. Basically weekends I will be at home not sitting for long hours, so that time I wont be having any pain. But I get mostly when I am at work. I wont be able to sit more than 20-30mins. I have to either stand or walk. Can you please help what can I do to ease out my pain.

Thank you.

Hello,
Start by taking a look at our meralgia paresthetica page at Chiropractic-help.com ... type it into the search this site engine.

Usually this is a double entrapment syndrome; in the groin and in the upper lumbar spine. Both have to be addressed for a successful resolution.

Start phoning around to see if any chiros in your area have ever heard of MP, and treat it.

Dr B

May 31, 2013
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Meralgia Paresthetica
by: Jess

Meralgia Paresthetica

I am a 26 year old female and have been having the burning and numbness on my right outer thigh on and off for about 3 years. It has been worse more recently.

Now I have a stabbing pain in my right ovary and it seems when that is worse the pain in my thigh is worse. Could they be related?

Also, I spend a lot of my day standing and walking. Sitting sometimes relieves the pain. Is the pain from Meralgia Paresthetica constant or is it normal to not feel it for weeks at a time?

Hello Jess,
I'm not sure about your ovary question. Ask your gynae. It's a problem of the Lateral Femoral Cutaneous Nerve being pinched usually in two places, in the groin and in the high lumbar spine.

It's very treatable but your chiropractor will have to address both of these areas and the treatment in the groin can be quite painful. Take a friend partner with you.

If you have a Leg Length Inequality then standing and loitering can certainly aggravate it.

Start by doing the Maignes syndrome exercises … a different but related condition.

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Dec 20, 2011
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meralgia paresthetica
by: cathy feeney

I am a forty four old woman i have had this now three months and is gettin worse the pain is so bad i cant sleep of a nite what can i do to stop this pleas help.hope yuo have andwers for me

Hello Cathy,
I need a lot more details. You may have noticed that James was diagnosed with meralgia paresthetica, but in fact it seems the problem was a sciatic nerve impingement.

To get a helpful answer, you need to give me far more details. Where does it hurt, what aggravates it, what caused it in the beginning, old injuries etc.

let me know.

Dr b

Nov 14, 2010
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Reply to Meralgia Paresthetica / not MP
by: James S

Hello James,
It's now three years. I was wondering if you have an update? There's been quite a lot of interest in your case.

Dr b

My right leg is the problem leg. On part 2 of the slump test I am not even able to fully extend that leg . The pain seems to focus on the right side of my tail bone. Most of my pain seems to occur when standing and now when getting into the vehicle . I have to find just the right driving position and then after awhile the leg adjusts. This is when it shoots down the leg and the pain focuses in different areas depending on the position - sometimes down the outer back side of thigh , other times inside back of thigh or focuses in the back of the knee. It never goes any further than this . I have no numbness or tingling to speak of . The only tingling is mainly in the center of the right gluteal are and some in the tailbone area. I am able to walk and stand alright though. I have since been doing some more reading and wonder if this isn't SI dysfunction and if one of those belts wouldn't help me out . I know that you did refer to the ileum in your response . I finally went to my GP and he put me on methylprednisone, medrol dose pack, which is not helping at all so stopped taking them . Thanks much for providing help to me!
Dear James,

If the slump test is positive at 2, and your pain is primarily at the back of the leg, then you have sciatica not MP. A different nerve. And yes it comes from the lower lumbar spine, near your tailbone, whereas MP is from the upper lumbar spine.

You have what chiropractors deal with all day long. Start shopping around for a thorough, conscientious chiro. Every sciatica is a challenge, but the vast majority respond very well to chiro.

Sit less, don't bend, and if you have trouble standing ask your chiro to consider whether you have a short leg; leg length inequality.

There's heaps on this at chiropractic help. Go browsing, and good luck. I hope this has contributed.
Dr B.

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